[Abnormal Summit E90] EXO's Bhutanese fangirls + Baro & Sandeul

Article: 'Abnormal Summit' Bhutan representative, "Bhutanese people envy Korea where EXO is at"

Source: News 1 via Naver

Linchen Dawa(?): "Up until 1999, the Internet and TV were banned in Bhutan. We considered it dangerous to import foreign cultures. But the new king allowed to open up to other cultures. These days, hallyu is bigger than Indian movies. When Bhutanese girls are asked if they're happy, they say they envy Korea where EXO is at."

1. [+2168, -31] We still can't see EXO though ^^...

2. [+1685, -129] He came from the happiest country to the unhappiest country, hul. He has such a happy-looking face. So cute.

3. [+1065, -35] Only the fans must be happy. EXO is known all the way to Bhutan, they're really popular indeed.

4. [+185, -3] I was born in the same country and speak the same language as them but I never got to talk to them.

5. [+148, -2] But EXO is barely in Korea...

6. [+143, -2] We can't see EXO that often, either

7. [+131, -2] I don't contact him anymore but when Linchen first came to Korea when he was 17, I was his Korean teacher. It's nice to see him on TV again. He's really innocent and nice. Be healthy, Linchen! ㅋㅋ

8. [+145, -10] Bhutan is not financially rich but they know what a good welfare is. Free education and medical treatment, even free for foreigners. They also pay for overseas treatment. No wonder why the citizens are happy. It's an amazing country, 'the happiest country' title wasn't an exaggeration.

Article: 'Abnormal' Sandeul, an indecisive character that captures the viewers

Source: Ilgan Sports via Naver

1. [+106, -3] At the end, there was no opinion from Sandeul ㅋㅋ It was so cute how he kept turning the light on and off ㅋㅋ

2. [+92, -3] My niece likes the group so much~ They members look nice and likeable~

3. [+83, -4] I laughed so hard yesterday ㅋㅋ Sandeul was so cute and Baro talked well...

4. [+72, -4] My daughter and I like the group a lot! They have good songs and a good personality!

5. [+66, -3] Great chemistry between the MCs, Sandeul, and Baro. I enjoyed the whole episode~

6. [+21, -1] I watched it without expecting much but Sandeul's natural variety skill surprised me

Is there an idol that you don't find talented but people hype them up?

Pann: Is there an idol that you don't find talented but people hype them up?

(Pann OP chooses Tiffany)

1. [+167, -243] BTS

2. [+133, -68] I don't understand why people praise Krystal's vocal color

3. [+125, -14] Honestly, Taetiseo is talented

4. [+85, -4] How come no one's mentioning GFriend? GFriend except Yuju

5. [+81, -6] Since when did people hype BTS up? Do you see fans mentioning Jimin or Jungkook when there's an idol vocal ranking?

6. [+73, -9] I like BTS' vocal colors though. I don't think people hype them up.

7. [+68, -23] Xiumin

8. [+60, -5] Twice. They're so-so except Jihyo and Nayeon

9. [+58, -95] BTS vocal line

10. [+57, -4] Chanyeol. His fans say he sings better than rap but he sounds good because his voice tone is low. He doesn't have a singing talent. But whenever Chanyeol sings, his fans go crazy and say he should be a vocalist ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

11. [+51, -4] Chaeyoung is a rapper but people say she can also sing. So I looked up all the videos but I didn't find her singing good.

12. [+46, -5] Xiumin. Even Suho is better than him.

13. [+42, -18] Lovelyz vocals

14. [+41, -28] No one's worse than EXO. They're so untalented.

15. [+34, -4] Bomi. I don't hate her and I watched all of Apink News and I like her mukbang. But Namjoo's vocal is much better. Bomi's high notes sound forced. My My is the best title track for me.

16. [+20, -2] Yoona ㅋㅋㅋㅋ It's funny that I have to say her name. Sometimes, Apink fans also hype up Naeun. The fans claim that those girls aren't as bad as you think ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

16. [+13, -3] I think Suzy's singing and acting are too overrated

Are Mamamoo's stage manners "over the top"?

Pann: Do you think Mamamoo is over the top these days?

1. [+257, -30] I think Mamamoo feels pressured. They got popular by their jokes on the stage during Um Oh Ah Yeh promotions, so they have this "We must be doing jokes on the stage" pressure.

2. [+238, -23] I'm a Moomoo, let me clarify the gif. She wasn't smelling her armpit. Hwasa was doing a sexy dance with her arms up and Wheein was standing up at the same time and her face just went there for a moment. They're not always beagle like that.

3. [+204, -55] I like it. It's actually refreshing to see a group like this.

4. [+139, -41] They're over the top... I liked it at first but they kept doing it, so...

5. [+101, -2] They're charming but sometimes they look over the top and so-so.

6. [+72, -26] What about Hani who burbs on broadcast?

7. [+67, -22] I like it though ㅋㅋ It's better than other celebrities who fake their image. They're just a different kind of girl group. They're not over the top.

8. [+65, -11] It would've been funny if they did that on a variety show but it looks off to see it on a public channel music show.

9. [+59, -18] I liked them at first but now I find them unappealing because I can see that they're trying to push this "girl crush" image. It looks cool when they're not aware of it... They're over the top on the stage.

10. [+58, -19] I think they're over the top

Winner and Red Velvet get hate for not bringing public-friendly songs?

Pann: Winner and Red Velvet get way too much hate for not bringing public-friendly songs

1. [+193, -12] Winner has been around for 3 years but they've only released one album 'Empty'. It's an emotional ballad, which is a disadvantage for idols to gain fans. They only promoted for 2 months. All they did in three years was guest on Weekly Idol. They're literally holding on with the fans they gained on WIN. But Sentimental was #1 when it was released and it's still in top 20. I don't understand why people say it's a flop.

2. [+183, -9] On Actor School, one of the cast said, "Sorry to say this but why is Winner's song not charting high?" Taehyun said, "Oh, us? Yeah... I wrote the title track so I'm quite concerned about it these days." He looked like he was blaming himself and I felt bad watching him. Don't bash them for their results, it's the most hurtful thing for the singers. Red Velvet's song is also good, what more can they do? Drama OSTs and other digital monsters are all out there, they're doing fine.

3. [+175, -10] They're pursuing the music they want to do, is this something to get criticized? What's wrong with not getting good results? It's Winner's first comeback but they were #5 on Gaon's monthly chart and #3 for physical sales. Red Velvet's rank also keeps increasing.

4. [+60, -1] It's true that Winner had Winner TV before debut. But do you know how many years fans had to wait since then? We had to wait for 2 years. During the time, light fans left and some fans were disappointed that Empty and Sentimental aren't pop-ish songs that Winner pursued on WIN. But Winner still managed to be #5 on digital chart in February and their fans donated 100 million won at a recent concert. Winner is still doing relatively well.

5. [+55, -5] I'm an SM stan and I don't like YG songs because they aren't my type. But I like Winner's Sentimental and also liked Empty and Don't Flirt. So Winner is the only likeable YG artist for me. It's not like I hate or like other YG artists though.

6. [+47, -1] Honestly, Winner's blues genre is just unfamiliar, the song is still really good. People just don't listen because blues is an unfamiliar genre. The quality is amazing.

7. [+44, -0] Winner and Red Velvet's songs aren't factory-manufactured hook songs. In Winner's song, every sound has its details. You can't compare them to factory-manufactured hook songs.

8. [+44, -8] They can fuck off. Public-friendly? If you want something public-friendly, then go listen to Brave Brothers or Shinsadong Tiger. What's the point of creating high quality sounds and quality music videos when everything is judged by digital ranking? Korea's Music Awards nominees weren't even top 100 on Melon.

9. [+41, -0] Winner and Red Velvet's songs are much better than typical autotuned idol songs.

10. [+38, -1] Then they can listen to electronic songs. Both songs are high quality, they just don't appeal to the public.

Yoona gets invited to the Blue House by the president for her donations

President Park Geun Hye invited 26 figures that have been donating and volunteering outstandingly. Park Hae Jin and Yoona were included.

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Pann: Idol who was invited by the president for donating a lot

1. [+75, -0] Yoona returns the love she gets... All Yoona antis can do is being keyboard warriors ㅋㅋ She's doing a lot of good deeds quietly.

2. [+72, -0] God

3. [+70, -3] Her looks might get divided opinions but you can never bash her personality

4. [+33, -0] Do you think any other idol went to the Blue House for donating a lot? You can't bash Yoona for her personality.

5. [+29, -0] A lot of people don't know about her donations but she's been donating quietly ㅠㅠ

6. [+25, -0] Yoona has no controversy since debut and she has a good personality. She has this charm that makes others happy.

7. [+24, -0] She's a member of Honor Society that requires to donate a huge amount. Yoona's personality is even more perfect.

8. [+22, -0] Not just helping out foreign children, but she's also been donating to Junggu continuously.

Twice center: Nayeon vs Tzuyu

Nayeon: Practical center on Twice's album cover and on the stage

Tzuyu: Public center in Twice's CFs and the media

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Pann: Twice center: Nayeon vs Tzuyu

1. [+98, -10] Before Twice was formed, Nayeon was famous as a visual trainee in JYP. Tzuyu became the visual after debut but the Korean members picked Nayeon as the prettiest member and fans also call her pretty. She's the center on the stage because she can sing. Tzuyu's singing isn't good enough to be a stage center.

2. [+94, -4] JYP promotes Nayeon as the center but CFs and the media want Tzuyu. Still, the practical center is Nayeon. Both deserve to be a center anyways ㅋㅋㅋㅋ They can take turns.

3. [+60, -8] Just like what you see on Produce 101, center is a very important role. The center changes the image of the entire group. Those that saw Twice first on music shows or the album cover find Twice as a typical traditional group that's pretty and cute because Nayeon is the center. Those that saw Twice first in CFs or variety shows think Twice is a legendary girl group that has looks and bodies because Tzuyu is the center.

4. [+46, -48] Isn't it Nayeon obviously?

5. [+41, -0] Tzuyu has a Seolhyun-like body and height, so she stands out in the group. But she can't sing and she's dark-skinned, so she's the center in CFs and other aspects, not on the stage.

6. [+39, -3] What do you think?

7. [+38, -11] Honestly, I find Nayeon a better center

8. [+36, -2] JYP promoted Nayeon a lot even before debut but Tzuyu hit really big

9. [+32, -1] Nayeon is a lookalike of Eugene who's a legendary idol beauty. Tzuyu is a new striking visual. Both can be a center.

10. [+32, -0] Nayeon looks cute and fresh. Tzuyu looks chic. So Tzuyu is the center in pictorials and CFs and Nayeon is the center on the stage. Both are pretty, the center doesn't matter. I like it the most when they're together.

March & April comebacks

GOT7 - Mar 21 with 'Fly'

Block B - Lead single album in March, mini album in April

Eric Nam - Mar 24

Jang Bum Joon - Mar 25

DAY6 - End of March with 5 members

Sam Kim - Mar 28 (Debut album, from K-Pop Star)

Oh My Girl - Mar 28

BTOB - End of March

CNBLUE - End of April

VIXX - Apr 19

April - April (lol)

Lovelyz - Middle of April

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Pann: Ton of April comebacks

1. [+78, -75] Flopvelyz is having a comeback again?

2. [+68, -36] I bet GOT7 will sweep the charts

3. [+51, -5] DAY6 has good songs... It's a pity but I prefer 5 members. JYP said they'll promote on music shows this time. I trust them.

4. [+29, -9] Let's win #1, BTOB <3

5. [+27, -3] BTOB must be tired. Right after Japanese promotions, they have a concert and a comeback on the next day. Cube must be running out of money. Do well!!!

6. [+25, -33] There's no famous group though? Looks like April will be about who robs an empty house.

Tall boy groups (feat. nugus)

Winner - Average of 180cm, "model-dols"

VIXX - Average of 183cm

KNK - Average of 185cm, "tall-dols"

LU:KUS - Average of 184.5cm

Legend - Average of 184cm, appealed as "group without insoles"

Halo - Average of 181cm

Snuper - Average of 180cm

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Pann: Trendy tall-dols

1. [+96, -2] Wow, I don't know any of them except Winner and VIXX

2. [+91, -2] I don't think they're trends after VIXX

3. [+78, -1] Honestly, none of them is a trend except Winner and VIXX. Fix the title. I don't know them except the two groups. I've heard of KNK, at least.

4. [+36, -0] Tallest member in Winner...

5. [+20, -0] Winner & VIXX ✌

6. [+19, -1] I don't know them except Winner and VIXX

7. [+18, -0] The reason why Winner is called model-dols isn't because they're tall. It's because their debut album concept was a fashion brand launch. The teasers were Winner members being models and the album name was also 2014 s/s. That's why fans call them model-dols.

8. [+16, -1] VIXX

9. [+16, -1] They're not relevant except Winner and VIXX

10. [+16, -0] I don't know all of them after VIXX

Red Velvet's new song can't win #1 because of 'Descendants of the Sun' OST?

Pann: The reason why Red Velvet can't win #1 today

(OST of Descendants of the Sun is also released on the same day)

1. [+42, -3] No matter how I think of it, velvet concept is too weak

2. [+41, -1] SM did a bad job... They should've released the song yesterday instead.

3. [+40, -2] It'll be hard to win #1 this time

4. [+18, -1] Why do they release the song at the worst time?

5. [+17, -1] I was so worried because the digital release date was the 17th... Great job, SM.

6. [+16, -1] It's still amazing that Red Velvet managed to beat other OSTs, not Descendants of the Sun.

7. [+15, -0] I stopped using Melon and I don't watch Descendants of the Sun. Just how big is the drama? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

8. [+14, -0] If you listen to the song, you can clearly tell that SM doesn't care about the public ㅋㅋㅋㅋ I'm going to listen to Red Velvet's song because I like it ㅋㅋㅋ

9. [+13, -1] Poor Red Velvet....

10. [+12, -2] I listened to the song on a radio and it's really good

11. [+11, -1] Ice Cream Cake and Dumb Dumb are much better. They're unique, refreshing, and good songs. Ballad has a nice vibe but it reminds me of IU's old songs and it's less refreshing. They would've been more daebak if they kept promoting with Red Velvet's unique color... Why ballad suddenly... Gloomy ballad for spring...

12. [+10, -0] I'm a Red Velvet fan and I also watch Descendants of the Sun. I'm worried ㅠㅠ Such bad timing, ugh.

AOA Jimin's fansite admin tweets about Taeyeon's "changed nose"

@AOA_HeyDay: "Her nose seems to have changed a lot"

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Pann: Jimin's fansite admin targets Taeyeon

1. [+68, -15] Jimin fans are so annoying ㅋㅋ None of them is apologizing. Even if there are SNSD antis here, shouldn't you be still apologizing?

2. [+66, -8] What did Taeyeon do to Jimin? Why does Taeyeon have to get targeted for her face and why are Taeyeon fans getting hate? Jimin fans are interesting.

3. [+60, -5] She's not a nobody on Twitter. She's a well-known fansite admin, of course she should be careful with her words. If she wants to tweet that, then she should do it on her private account.

4. [+29, -1] I was shocked at the comments... A lot of Jimin fans are rude. They should treat other singers as preciously as their bias. She must have many followers as a fansite admin, how can she openly say that? It's no different from saying Taeyeon got plastic surgery. She doesn't know that she's also tarnishing Jimin's image... She should worry about Jimin's face first.

5. [+25, -1] There are a plenty of other fans that will take pictures of Taeyeon, I hope she stops caring about Taeyeon. In her apology, she said she was supposed to tweet it on her private account. I guess she'll keep targeting Taeyeon on her private account then ㅠㅠ Is she apologizing or is she being sarcastic?

6. [+24, -1] No apology ㅋㅋㅋㅋ I didn't expect her to be this reckless. No wonder why their fans are called AOA-roaches. Poor AOA. I don't understand why Taeyeon has to get hate. I heard that the fansite admin is famous for her photos. She's at fault for tweeting it as a well-known fansite admin.

7. [+22, -0] The fandom is telling us to stop, so funny. Do you have something against Taeyeon? Look at her tweeting this as a fansite admin.

8. [+20, -2] Wow, I'm a non-fan but I'm shocked at the comments ㅋㅋㅋㅋ I was so shocked at a fansite admin targeting other singer openly like that, but I was more shocked to see no apology from fans ㅋㅋㅋㅋ Fans = singer. You guys deserve to be called AOA-roaches

BTS & iKON as the 'trends'

Pann: I think these two groups are the trends

Superstars: Bigbang & EXO
Stable: SHINee & Infinite
Trends: BTS & iKON

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1. [+161, -203] They're a trend indeed. Their rudeness looks like they're a big superstar that exceeds Bigbang ㅋㅋㅋ

2. [+161, -31] I expected to see BTS. iKON is honestly really popular. There are 3~4 iKON fans in every class and a lot of others are about to become fans.

3. [+128, -3] A trend means a group that gains many new fans, gets mentioned a lot, and has active promotions. EXO and Bigbang aren't trends, they're superstars.

4. [+77, -2] BTS started to be a trend since Dope and iKON is gaining a lot of fans on Mari And I. Both groups are trends indeed.

5. [+63, -1] It's definitely BTS and iKON

6. [+57, -0] True. Bigbang and EXO are superstars. These days, there are so many fans of BTS and iKON.

7. [+48, -3] Why do you think they get hate on Pann ㅋㅋ Bigbang and EXO are walls. SHINee and Infinite are on a long-run. BTS and iKON are starting to get popular.

8. [+46, -87] Stop downgrading their results

Five unpopular boy groups that debuted in 2013

History (April 26, 2013)

LC9 (May 9, 2013)

Boys' Republic (June 5, 2013)

Empire (Aug 1, 2013)

Topp Dogg (Oct 24, 2013)

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Instiz: Unpopular idol groups that debuted in 2013

- Boys' Republic's Hello is a really good song...

- Unfortunately, BTS is the only popular group that debuted in 2013

- I've never heard of some of them

- Topp Dogg's problem is their company... Kiddo's withdrawal was the biggest mistake

- Speed, too

- History ㅠㅠ Loen artists are all amazing, they're talented and charming

- Loen's debut songs are legendary. But after that...

Next SNSD concept you want to see?

Pann: SNSD's next concept

1. [+146, -4] I want another uniform concept like Genie ㅠㅠ

2. [+107, -2] I'm not a SNSD fan but Genie concept for me

3. [+96, -4] Sparkling and pretty concept like Twinkle

4. [+72, -3] SM is into foreign rock and the nature these days. I want an electronic and rock song like A Sky Full of Stars by Coldplay and a goddess concept with the space and the mother nature in the background. I'm not a fan but I think SNSD is the only girl group that can pull off this concept. I really want to see this kind of concept. And there are a plenty of hoobae female idols that are 30 or older. Shinhwa can but SNSD can't?

5. [+59, -2] SNSD is the original concept queens. SNSD looks good in everything ㅠㅠ

6. [+57, -1] SM is such a genius. How can they not do an overlapping concept for 9 years? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

7. [+47, -5] Honestly, Lion Heart and Party were good songs but they didn't leave a big impact. I want them to do a legendarily showy concept.

8. [+42, -0] A song like Catch Me If You Can. I want them to do a girl crush concept. It was my first time of finding girls cool.

9. [+40, -1] Most memorable concepts are I Got a Boy and Genie

10. [+31, -2] Not a fan but I really liked the black and white dress, pink suit, and white suit in Mr. Mr.!! Those outfits were my type... I want them to wear them again.

Guckkasten Ha Hyun Woo says he doesn't consider idols as singers

Ha Hyun Woo (Indie band 'Guckkasten' vocalist & guitarist)

"I don't consider idols as singers. They're putting on a show as entertainers and they're lying. They say they had to compete with thousands of people to become a singer, but I really wonder what kind of talent they had to win the tough competition."

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Pann: I don't consider idols as singers

1. [+460, -3] Hey, you should understand him. That was after working with Goo Hara.

2. [+321, -3] He might've been pissed off at the moment because he was working with Goo Hara at that time ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

3. [+175, -3] Save Goo Hara (tn: wordplay since "goo hara' means 'save')

4. [+106, -1] If you're criticizing him for this, you should listen to at least one song of Guckkasten. I'm a fan of Guckkasten and I'm bitter that Ha Hyun Woo is more known for his statement on idols than his music. When he was in high school, he asked his friends to step on his stomach to practice vocalization. When he was a nugu, he had no money so he had to do physical labor and got an electric shock. He froze ramen soup to eat it with rice for next meals. That how he pursued music. You think he wouldn't be pissed off at Goo Hara being called a singer? And Ha Hyun Woo isn't blaming all idols, he even gave a song to Jinwoon.

5. [+92, -3] I thought his statement was unfair because it wouldn't apply to some idols, but I understood him fully when I read that he worked with Goo Hara ㅋㅋ

6. [+79, -0] It's true that there are a lot of untalented idols out there. They make me wonder how they're able to be on broadcast and sing. Majority of groups have one vocalist and there's at least one who can't sing at all. I know there are exceptions but it's the majority. I wonder how they became idols when they can't even sing or dance. I also don't consider idols as singers. There aren't even many idols that deserve to be called singers.

7. [+64, -2] Isn't it true though? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ There are many talented idols these days but at that time, idols were literally for a 'show'.

8. [+53, -0] Ha Hyun Woo doesn't hate idols. He likes them as long as they're talented. He just hates visuals who can't sing. You don't have to care if you bias can sing. As a fan of Guckkasten, I can't stand to see people calling Guckkasten a nugu when they're the president of indie industry.

9. [+49, -1] Guckkasten and Nell are top 2 of indie. Kim Yeon Woo chose Ha Hyun Woo as the best Korean vocalist. He worked so hard to be where he's at. He also talks really well because he read a lot of books.

10. [+47, -38] What he says isn't wrong. At least Hara attempted to sing a whole song. This Yoona bitch ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 10cm sang the whole song and she only sang a bit, but the song was released under her name. It made me laugh because it was so shameless ㅋㅋㅋㅋ Her singing was really bad but her fangirls praised her for her vocal color ㅋㅋㅋㅋ I even saw a Soneroach commenting "how better does she have to do?" I thought they were insane.